3.6GHz SP32M contest

[Lumske]

As long as you only use the 'apply'-button you will be ok. The worst thing that has happened to me when using that button is that I had to press the reset button and restart.

The 'save'-button saves your settings for the next reboot.

For 4-4-4-8 1200Mhz I would say you need GOOD RAMs and atleast 2.5v. As Nosfer@tu says, try realising the timings a bit. 5-4-4-10 or something. As an example, my current RAMs in my 24/7-rig is maxing out at about 560MHz 4-4-4-8 no matter what voltage I use.

It is kind of boring sometimes to test settings with SP32M. I usually use SP8M or 4M to get an indication about if it might work or not when running SP32M.

good to know. well i think i will try 1:1 and then as low timings as i can get. that should get me a desent time to right?

[Lumske]

you guys gotta see this

[Carpe^Diem]

Thats looking good Are you able to get the performance down a bit ?

[Nosfer@tu]

you guys gotta see this

HEHE nice. Does it even work at those timmings ?
Run super pi every time to check if they even run

[Lumske]

HEHE nice. Does it even work at those timmings ?
Run super pi every time to check if they even run

well strange actually, my 4m vent down, and my 32m up by a minut

[Lumske]

Thats looking good Are you able to get the performance down a bit ?

dont know about that. i just typed in what blossa porposed

[Carpe^Diem]

dont know about that. i just typed in what blossa porposed

ahh, im talking about the performance level, lower=better... to low= instant bsod / reboot

[Lumske]

ahh, im talking about the performance level, lower=better... to low= instant bsod / reboot

no i know that. i meant i dont know if i can get it lower

[Carpe^Diem]

Get moving...

[blossa]

Oh, I did miss one thing.

First, you could do as Carpe~Diem says and try to set a lower value for Performance Level. I suggest you do test that BEFORE you try to tighten the other timings. (good point Carpe~Diem!)

But while you are having CAS3 now, can you try keep the same memsettings and change to multiplier 8 instead of 9. The you try to raise your FSB 5-10MHz at the time and try to reach 450MHz FSB. If you manage that, you will run 8*450=3.6GHz 3-3-3-3-4. It might be easier if you raise tRAS to 6, 8 or 10...

The thing I forgot: In my opinion you should always keep as high frequency on the rams as possible when running SP32M. You CAN compensate lower frequency with better timings but I feel that that is more time consuming.

I suggest that you go back to 2:3-divider (9*400 will give you 600MHz on the RAMs) and try to tighten the timings at that frequency.

Another way of reaching better speed in the RAMs might be to change from 266-strap to 200-strap. Sometimes even 333-strap can help, depends of what FSB you are running...

When (if) you are running like 8*450MHz you will probably notice that 2:3-divider is very hard to use (675MHz on the RAMs). Try to back down to 4:5-divider (562MHz?) and use the timings you had for 600MHz to start with. Then try to tighten them.

Good luck!

[Nosfer@tu]

My first run.


First 32M Run+second

My 8. Run

8.Th strapp 266 run 7-6-6-6-20-7-48-7-20-17-4-8-5-6-16383T-T2

I still need to try out T1, Lower multi, More tweaks, and New OS
These times are NOT very good

[blossa]

I have some problems to see the result in that last picture... But it does look like 13m-something. So you have already shaved of more than 2 minutes? Nice!! What speed does your RAMs have?

First thing that strikes me is that you have not mentioned copywazaa. If you have not tried that, please do. Might do more 10 seconds.

Second, that looks like a allround installation disk. I have tried that and I was hopelessly after the 'other' guys. If you have a SATA-**** laying around, try do an installation on that with Windows, intel chipset-drivers, memset, setfsb and SuperPI. I did not even have the drivers for the display installed. Disable everything you do not need in BIOS before installation.

[Nosfer@tu]

I have some problems to see the result in that last picture... But it does look like 13m-something. So you have already shaved of more than 2 minutes? Nice!! What speed does your RAMs have?

First thing that strikes me is that you have not mentioned copywazaa. If you have not tried that, please do. Might do more 10 seconds.

Second, that looks like a allround installation disk. I have tried that and I was hopelessly after the 'other' guys. If you have a SATA-**** laying around, try do an installation on that with Windows, intel chipset-drivers, memset, setfsb and SuperPI. I did not even have the drivers for the display installed. Disable everything you do not need in BIOS before installation.

It is 1:2

I know, I will have to do so, and Lower multi, Copy wasa. I havent done that.
I will install a new one, I need to do some better times at 5 Ghz

[Nanok]

My best 32M Superpi run
Suggestions how to improve is verry velcome.
http://peecee.dk/upload/view/93865/full

[Nosfer@tu]

How many processes is running ?
Shut down whireless, close temp reading.
Change background theme.
Lower multi = higher fsb

[blossa]

@Nanok:
I do believe that disabling the wireless network(s) will help alot.

9*400 would be better, BUT maybe you will run into trouble with you RAMs then? Same with 8*450... Do you have the divider 4:5 on your board?

P.S. I do like your desktop image.

[Nanok]

tryed 450x8 with 5:4 but struggling to get it 32M stabel.
The one closest to succeed was 10.5min in too the test.
Ram is 4.3.3.10@562.6

[Nanok]

I hat to change to my Crucial to obtain stabel 32M Superpi. with 4:5 on ram :-(
450x8 with 4:5 on ram 4.4.3.4 @ 562,5
http://peecee.dk/upload/view/94078/full

[blossa]

That is a big improvment. And your RAMs seems ok.

Can you enter 'msconfig' and see what programs that are autostarting? I see you have acrobat reader and I do belive that that program has some autostarting stuff...

Do you have Performance Level in you BIOS? It should be in the RAM section if so...

Also. Can you donwload and install memset and maybe include that in your next screenshot?

[Nosfer@tu]

That is a big improvment. And your RAMs seems ok.

Can you enter 'msconfig' and see what programs that are autostarting? I see you have acrobat reader and I do belive that that program has some autostarting stuff...

Do you have Performance Level in you BIOS? It should be in the RAM section if so...

Also. Can you donwload and install memset and maybe include that in your next screenshot?

yes those will help ALOT

[vanovich]

whats the best time so far?

[Retired Admin]

14m30.078s
E8400 @ 3.6 GHz (400x9) 1.27v
4 GB DDR2-6400 @ 4-3-3-8
Your everyday "Dirty" XPSP2
http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=694290

[blossa]

whats the best time so far?

I have not looked around... But my best time so far is like this:
12m 54.782s...7*514...DDR3 857MHz 7-6-6-6-15

xt0m: Isn't it impressive how low voltage we need theese days...? Can you try divider 4:5 maybe?

[Retired Admin]

xt0m: Isn't it impressive how low voltage we need theese days...? Can you try divider 4:5 maybe?

Its so nice, m8! ya, will give it another go

[vanovich]

this is the forst try out ,help me outy here im not a pi tweaker

[Nosfer@tu]

this is the forst try out ,help me outy here im not a pi tweaker

Clean up the desktop, place in 1 folder or in my dokuments and keep em there while testing.

Close EVERYTHING running on the pc that you dont use.
You have avast and alot of other stuff running I see.

set affenity in taskmanager for superpi.
Change to Core 2 , also done in taskmanager.

Try and read the thread, there is ALOT of great tips

[Nosfer@tu]

Im around 13.33 and started out at 16 min.

[Retired Admin]

14m30.078s
E8400 @ 3.6 GHz (400x9) 1.27v
4 GB DDR2-6400 @ 4-3-3-8
Your everyday "Dirty" XPSP2
http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=694290

Second run
14m05.156s
E8400 @ 3.6 GHz (400x9) 1.31v
2 GB DDR2-6400 @ 4-3-3-5 (+ subs)
Still my everyday "Dirty" XPSP2
http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=696927

[Nanok]

My new Qx9650 with Corsair 8000ul.
Will try with crucial 10th year anniversary kit later.
http://peecee.dk/upload/view/95896/full

[Nanok]

Not much better with crucial 10th year anniversary
http://peecee.dk/upload/view/95930/full

[blossa]

Nanok: Can you try PerformanceLevel 8,7 or 6 maybe. Also Write To Precharge Delay should be possible to set to 10 or 11...

xt0m: nice going! Is it possible to run exact same setting but 450*8 instead? Maybe you need more voltage to the RAMS or loosen the timings to 4-4-4-5 or so... 4-4-4-8 is almost identical but might give you the last MHz in clock instead.

[Nanok]

Okay will try that later Blossa.

[Retired Admin]

xt0m: nice going! Is it possible to run exact same setting but 450*8 instead? Maybe you need more voltage to the RAMS or loosen the timings to 4-4-4-5 or so... 4-4-4-8 is almost identical but might give you the last MHz in clock instead.

Actually I tried a few loops on 450*8 but didnt really notice any improvement

How do you calculate the index number for a 32m run?

[blossa]

Not even though your RAMs then do 450MHz...? A bit strange... Are you booting at 450*8 or are you booting with lower FSB and then using setfsb or do? If possible, try to boot with 420 or so and then use setfsb for the rest.

Also, what strap are you using? Strap 1066 or even 800 tends to be better.

I have no idea of how to calculate that, I just run the test. Someone else might post an answer to that...? Or maybe I missunderstand you.

Sometimes it can be better to start the test and then break it right after the initial value is showed (around 10 seconds). Then start the bench again and let it finish. However, with no swap file and a rather low maxmem, the test might fail.